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[00:35:24] <Charon77> > t doesn't do too much good to add more packages if the ones I have I can't keep up to date
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[00:35:25] <Charon77> for important packages: outdated package is better than missing package. things like blender, vlc might be arguable. but I think desktop environment might be detrimental for people, like KDE which has good mobile support as well, (GNOME?)
[00:41:18] <bschnei> are there a lot of v8 devices people use with full DE? serious question. I don't know
[00:42:01] <bschnei> I mean I know you can plug a monitor into a pi4 but is that a popular use case?
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[08:35:50] <meijin007> any one knows if the jetson nano (P3450) should work?
[08:36:30] <solskogen|M> It's the first time I've heard about it (here) - so probably not.
[08:36:36] <meijin007> thanks
[08:36:45] <solskogen|M> and by that I mean nobody knows if it should work or not :-)
[08:37:32] <meijin007> yeah, I can't find if it's arm8.2 or not :thinking:
[08:38:11] <solskogen|M> That's ARM8-A
[08:39:19] <meijin007> which isn't good :(
[08:39:38] <solskogen|M> It's using a cpu from 2012
[08:40:12] <meijin007> yeah, but you don't look on things you get for free :D
[08:41:14] <solskogen|M> One shall not count the humps on a free camel, as I say
[08:41:57] <meijin007> haha
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[09:51:29] <solskogen|M> 14,778 aarch64 packages vs 14,932 for x86_64!
[09:54:01] <linkmauve> Do you have a public list of the missing ones?
[09:54:18] <solskogen|M> yes-ish
[09:54:32] <linkmauve> Or the additional ones?
[09:54:35] <solskogen|M> the url will change
[09:55:52] <solskogen|M> I'm in the process of making web page for reporting inconsistencies on aarch64 vs x86_64
[10:02:53] <solskogen|M> there's 131 missing. And that includes packages that does not make sense on aarch64 as well. Nothing important.
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[10:20:33] <solskogen|M> Thanks to cjc7373 we now have all haskell packages in armv8.2-a repo
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[14:18:55] <bschnei> cjc7373: example of recently updated package with bad hash is librist. Actively maintained, but releases are infrequent so I'll probably let the maintainer know. That's an https download from a gitlab server. Frustrating. Who knows what changed or why
[14:22:51] <cjc7373> solskogen|M: nice!
[14:31:25] <cjc7373> bschnei: i can reproduce that, that's weird
[14:32:03] <bschnei> happens all. the. time. fresh package. bad hash
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[14:37:18] <bschnei> i'm all for reproducibility and such, but I've become pretty cynical about how realistic that goal is if the existing validity checks are already an obstacle. Not smart enough to have a better idea or anything...just observations
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[16:03:29] <cjc7373> bschnei: I think it is the upstream to be blamed. Gitlab has an event api that can record tag create and delete events. Clearly upstream has overwritten v0.2.13 tag with a new commit
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[16:41:58] <bschnei> entirely possible
[18:11:09] <linkmauve> https://linkmauve.fr
[18:11:20] <linkmauve> Touhou running in Wine using FEX-Emu. :)
[18:12:29] <linkmauve> The wine package you ship is completely useless atm, it only builds for i686 and amd64.
[18:13:07] <solskogen|M> It's built straight from upstream. I don't use it myself. MR's are welcome :)
[18:13:09] <linkmauve> I used aur/wine-asahi-git, which has all of the patches needed to use FEX.
[18:13:22] <linkmauve> But is an older version.
[18:13:53] <linkmauve> Yeah, upstream is fine if you only want to run AArch64 Windows programs, as long as you build it for this architecture, but it won’t help with emulation.
[18:14:07] <linkmauve> Currently you do neither.
[18:14:26] <solskogen|M> It's probably not good for that either, since we don't ship aarch64-mingw
[18:14:49] <solskogen|M> but hey, if anyone is up for the task!
[18:16:26] <linkmauve> This one builds with clang.
[18:16:39] <linkmauve> See https://aur.archlinux.org
[18:16:40] <phrik> Title: PKGBUILD - aur.git - AUR Package Repositories (at aur.archlinux.org)
[18:16:54] <solskogen|M> last time I checked it wasn't even buildable with gcc
[18:17:08] <linkmauve> mingw is gcc.
[18:17:22] <solskogen|M> That's not true
[18:17:52] <linkmauve> Is it not?
[18:18:14] <solskogen|M> the aarch64-mingw-w64 target cannot (or at least couldn't) be build with gcc. only clang.
[18:23:43] <BrainDamage> this may be an obvious question, but how are you going to handle packages that only make sense in arm, like bochs? (qemu-user equivalent, but specific for aarch64 -> x86_64 leveraging specific instructions)
[18:23:56] <solskogen|M> not building them
[18:27:15] <solskogen|M> Unless you have a better idea? :-)
[18:30:29] <linkmauve> solskogen|M, this is a problem, because FEX is also exactly in that category, and we won’t be able to make use of wine without it.
[18:30:48] <linkmauve> Well, unless you expect users to exclusively want to play AArch64 Windows games. :p
[18:31:18] <solskogen|M> But neither are in upstream Arch.
[18:31:42] <solskogen|M> If the packages in the AUR get's the job done, use AUR.
[18:32:13] <linkmauve> It got removed from the AUR because it wasn’t useful on amd64.
[18:32:18] <solskogen|M> We're not to package stuff that are not in x86_64 unless it's really, really necessary
[18:32:48] <linkmauve> See https://lists.archlinux.org
[18:32:49] <phrik> Title: [PRQ#67115] Deletion Request for fex-emu - Aur-requests - lists.archlinux.org (at lists.archlinux.org)
[18:32:53] <solskogen|M> Then it should be re-added. Antiz - I think this is on you. one way or another ;-)
[18:33:13] <linkmauve> solskogen|M, do you consider being able to run Windows programs really, really necessary?
[18:33:37] <solskogen|M> linkmauve: Is this a rhetorical question? :-)
[18:34:29] <linkmauve> Just to make sure I’m not losing my time, if this isn’t going to be accepted because the emulator isn’t needed on amd64.
[18:47:37] <linkmauve> Oh! https://github.com
[18:47:38] <phrik> Title: GitHub - bylaws/llvm-mingw: An LLVM/Clang/LLD based mingw-w64 toolchain · GitHub (at github.com)
[18:47:51] <linkmauve> So there is a mingw for LLVM nowadays, great. :)
[19:06:17] <linkmauve> solskogen|M, your mpv package is build against sndio, but it doesn’t depend on it.
[19:06:24] <linkmauve> % mpv
[19:06:24] <linkmauve> mpv: error while loading shared libraries: libsndio.so.7: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
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[20:10:02] <solskogen|M> Looks like that's a problem upstream as well
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[22:38:39] <bschnei> linkmauve: we've put relaxing the restriction that the arch() array must contain x86_64 for AUR packages on Staff's radar when we first started working. I forget exactly why the restriction is still in place, but I believe there were not any signficant technical obstacles so I'm optimstic we'll get there.
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